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End Time Saints And The Call To Endure

If you don’t endure to the end, you won’t be SAVED!
If you don’t abide in Jesus Christ, you will be cutoff and thrown into the Fire!

To The Lord’s Remnant…this is not the time to backslide and go back to Babylon and embracing the ways of Babylonian Christianity…this is a time to ENDURE and Persevere…

We are coming to a time when the Christian world is going to be SUDDENLY engulfed in very heavy persecutions as never before. There is going to be a worldwide HATE for all who love Jesus Christ.

I am not just being an alarmist here, however, if it requires that I should sound as an alarmist for you to awake , then so be it... The Lord has shown this to me over and over again, sudden and unexpected furious persecutions against the saints and it is at this juncture that I put out this message on endurance. World events are occurring at a very fast rate and news is hard to keep track of…evil is on a large increase everywhere.

However, Jesus Christ warned us about this time in Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. The Lord gave us the signs of the times and among these signs as we come to the close of this age are the heavy and vicious persecution of the Saints. This persecution comes suddenly and without warning…

I write this article in hope that is will encourage you and for those who are still “fellowshipping” in the Apostate Churches that preach health, wealth and a good life here on earth, I pray that this will be a wake up call for you…

Even as we see earthquakes... Tsunamis, drought, hate, Ethnic warfare, and all the Matthew 24 signs Jesus Christ spoke about, what is coming suddenly and unexpectedly very soon is the heavy persecution of the saints.

Prosperity will not come, health-wealth will not come, no Dominionism but the sudden and unexpected diabolical persecution of the saints…

I pray that these scriptures below will help prepare you to ENDURE…Jesus Christ commands that we MUST endure during this time of persecution and tribulation…We are called to Endurance. Don’t let any foolish and idiotic preacher or pastor tell you that you don’t have to worry, that all things will be as they have been…

The difference between the past persecutions and what is coming is that this persecution will be unique as Jesus Christ described it in Matthew 24, that is has never been nor will it ever happen again… It will involve the whole host of the demonic and not just people who hate Jesus Christ…it is going to be demonic hate targeted at those who love Jesus Christ…

It will involve the betrayal of the True Saints of God by those in today’s churches who are in love with the World…it will involve your Pastor handing you over to be killed, it will involve great betrayals by demon posed Pastors, Apostles, Bishops, etc as they turn against the sheep in their care…this will happen…now is the time to prepare yourself, your family and friends who will listen and tell them that God is calling us to endurance and suffering for Him…

Lets take a look at what Jesus Christ said would happen concerning Persecutions, Tribulation, and our call to endure…

>>We Notice here that Jesus Christ clearly mentioned that you will be:
Afflicted…
Killed…
Hated of ALL Nations for His Name Sake…
Many shall be offended…
Shall betray one another…(Christians in context here)
Hate one another…(Christians in context here)
And…many False Prophets shall arise…
And…deceive many…
And…because iniquity shall abound…
The love of many will grow cold…

>>It is in such a state of events that Jesus Christ is calling all True Christians to endurance…

>>Many Christians during these state of events will fall back and their love for Christ will grow cold, they will fall in the faith and become totally apostate…the reason is that they did not take HEED and Watch as Jesus Christ commanded us to do so…their pastors, apostles and bishops lied to them that all would be well and they later realize that the promised prosperity and “Enjoying Life Everyday” with Joyce Meyer is not what happened but real bloody persecutions…

>>Notice also that Jesus Christ says that ALL Nations will HATE YOU for my Name’s sake…it is going to be world wide…what causes this kind of hate? It is nothing short of Satan and his demons…it is going to be sudden and unexpected and very diabolical…

>>Jesus Christ commands that we MUST ENDURE to the End…we must stand, persevere, and be faithful to the end…

Matthew 24:9-12
(9) Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
(10) And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
(11) And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
(12) And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.


Matthew 24:21-22
(21) For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
(22) And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Mark 13:9-13
(9) But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.
(10) And the gospel must first be published among all nations.
(11) But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.
(12) Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death.
(13) And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Luke 21:12-19
(12) But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.
(13) And it shall turn to you for a testimony.
(14) Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:
(15) For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
(16) And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
(17) And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.
(18 ) But there shall not an hair of your head perish.
(19) In your patience possess ye your souls.

>>Endurance is in context with persecution, tribulation, ill treatment, and great suffering of the Saints because they hold on to the Testimony of Jesus Christ. The hour has come that all who name themselves after The Name of Jesus Christ must endure the worldwide diabolical hate and persecution of the saints.

>>We must stand strong in The Lord Jesus Christ and hold onto our Faith in Him, we must hold onto His Truth and Abide in Him Alone...

>>So, we take a look at what endure means here from the Greek language to get a clear picture of what we must do as we obey The Lord’s COMMAND that we ENDURE…

G5278
ὑπομένω
hupomenō
hoop-om-en'-o
From G5259 and G3306; to stay under (behind), that is, remain; figuratively to undergo, that is, bear (trials), have fortitude, persevere: - abide, endure, (take) patient (-ly), suffer, tarry behind.

G5278
ὑπομένω
hupomenō
Thayer Definition:
1) to remain
1a) to tarry behind
2) to remain, i.e. abide, not recede or flee
2a) to preserve: under misfortunes and trials to hold fast to one’s faith in Christ
2b) to endure, bear bravely and calmly: ill treatments

>>We find some interesting definitions…
To stay under, that is remain…
To undergo trials…
To bear trials…
To have fortitude…(courage)
To abide…not recede or flee
To persevere…
To take patiently…
To suffer…
To tarry behind…
To preserve: under misfortunes and trials to hold fast to one’s faith in Christ
To endure, bear bravely and calmly: ill treatments
>>Remember that we cannot endure outside Jesus Christ…interestingly is that one of the definitions for the word ‘Endure’ is to abide…so we can only abide in Jesus Christ as He commanded us in John 15:1-6

John 15:1-6
(1) I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
(2) Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
(3) Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
(4) Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
(5) I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
(6) If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

>>Satan and his demonic forces will suddenly unleash an onslaught of very heavy and ferocious persecutions to the lax and lukewarm Christians to take as many as he can down with him to hell…

>>Our only source of strength is to ABIDE in Jesus Christ…please note that those who don’t abide in Christ, those who don’t endure will BE CAST INTO HELL…it will cost you your salvation if you refuse to Abide in Christ Jesus and as such cannot endure to the end and you will not be saved…these are not my words and spin…if you have controversy with them, then go to Jesus Christ, He said them and not me…

>>It is God’s Word and very clear that if you don’t abide in Him you will be cut off and cast into the fire…it is God’s Word and very clear that if you don’t endure to the end you will not be SAVED!

>>We can only endure the coming worldwide persecution and tribulation by abiding in Jesus Christ…we cannot do anything without Him…

>>It is at this juncture that I mention about the Holy Spirit…Jesus Christ said that He would not leave us as orphans but would send the Helper, The Spirit of Truth, The Comforter, The Holy Spirit, and that The Holy Spirit would lead us in all Truth and He would glorify Jesus Christ…

>>Many End time teachers out there ignore the ministry of The Holy Spirit and think that they will abide and endure because of their stubbornness, research, knowledge about the Illuminati, UFOs, New World Order, knowing "their rights" etc...but such thinking is stupidity and foolishness and suicidal at its best… You MUST be FILLED with The Holy Spirit...

>>The Holy Spirit is present and yes, we NEED to be filled with the Holy Spirit and He will guide us in all Truth for He is The Spirit of Truth… This means that you cannot have half truth but Truth…no more 70% truth and 30% lies…The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth and God’s Word is Truth, therefore The Holy Spirit testifies to The Whole Counsel of God's Word…John 17:17.

John 16:1-14
(1) These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.
(2) They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
(3) And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.
(4) But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you.
(5) But now I go my way to him that sent me; and none of you asketh me, Whither goest thou?
(6) But because I have said these things unto you, sorrow hath filled your heart.
(7) Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
(8 ) And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
(9) Of sin, because they believe not on me;
(10) Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
(11) Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
(12) I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
(13) Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
(14) He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

>>Context of the scripture above is that Jesus Christ was speaking about the persecutions that His disciples would have to endure…so, the disciples’ hearts were filled with sorrow and then Jesus Christ spoke about the Holy Spirit, The Spirit of Truth and The Comforter, that He would not leave them as orphans without a Helper…

>>So, throw away all your unbiblical ideologies, prejudice, and preconceived ideas about The Holy Spirit that you gotten from the religious circles like the Baptist movement and all other Cessationist Preachers...read your Bible yourself and check to see if what I say is true…

>>You NEED and MUST be FILLED with The Holy Spirit as the early Christians were in the Book of Acts…anything less than what happened in the book of Acts concerning being filled with The Holy Spirit is a counterfeit…

>>As a matter of fact Jesus Christ told them to wait for the promise from The Father – The Holy Spirit in the upper room and they did not begin to witness for Christ Jesus until they were filled with The Holy Spirit…

>>They were able to endure the onslaught of persecutions because of the grace and strength they received from The Holy Spirit. They were also able at the same time to be True witnesses of Jesus Christ and contend earnestly for the Faith and hold firm to the whole counsel of God’s Word…and Endure to the end because of the grace and strength from The Holy Spirit…

>>So, those who think that they will simply overcome the Antichrist onslaught without the promise from The Father – The Holy Spirit are deluded and deceived…humble yourself and humbly ask that you will receive The Holy Spirit and be Filled with The Holy Spirit so you can be a witness for Jesus Christ in this end times and endure by abiding in Christ Jesus…Amen

>>Our Endurance cannot be done in the current state of Christendom, we cannot bare fruit that endures through the coming Tribulation by abiding in such messages as Joyce Meyer, Kenneth Copeland, and TD Jakes…we cannot endure by being apart of the fallen apostate church…we MUST come out of such and ENDURE by ABIDING in JESUS CHRIST, The True Vine! Being grounded in “your church” will not help, being a friend of your pastor won't help either, or by loving your denomination or should I say demon-nation...

>>You must abide only in Jesus Christ in order for you to endure and stay standing at the end...

>>Endurance brings about death to self, death to the world and its ways in us, even as we are conformed to the Image of Jesus Christ...

>>As we endure we bare fruit in Christ Jesus, here by fruit, I mean the life and character of Jesus Christ is formed in us...many religious liars from the church growth movement in Christendom always spin John 15 to mean that the fruits spoken about are people that we soul win...this is not so... The fruits we bare are those of The Holy Spirit, which is the character and likeness of Jesus Christ in us...

>>So, we take a look at some scriptures here concerning the call to ENDURE…

>>Yes, to be saved, we must also endure to the end...those who don't endure to the end will not be saved...those offended over this should contact Jesus Christ directly...

Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

>>Affliction, persecution, and tribulations must come because of God's Word in us , to test us, however those who don't abide in Christ Jesus take offense...terrible record breaking persecutions are coming because the world hates Jesus Christ...and we MUST Endure...

Mark 4:17 And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.

>>Yes, we shall be hated by ALL men because of Jesus Christ...and we must endure by abiding in Jesus Christ even when hated for His Name Sake to the end to be saved...endurance is part of salvation...(I am so sorry all ye Pre-Tribers...contact Jesus Christ directly on questions about this...)

Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

>>The early church was one that endured, so must we endure persecutions also...

2 Thessalonians 1:4 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:

>>All GOOD soldiers of Jesus Christ MUST endure hardships...Jesus Christ and the Apostles never promised prosperity, wealth, and riches, like TD Jakes, Joyce Meyer, Rick Warren and other Babylonian Preachers teach... Jesus Christ and His apostles taught endurance of hardships, tribulations, persecutions, and suffering for Christ Jesus even unto death...

2 Timothy 2:3 Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.

>>Those called by Jesus Christ to lead His people must have a history of endurance'; they must be good soldiers who endure hardships, persecutions, tribulations, and sufferings even unto death...these set an example to follow for the rest of the saints...current Christian Leaders in many churches today are not so but seek to live a luxurious life at the expense of the saints...such men are liars, importers, fraudsters and wolves in sheep's clothing...you can find many of them crisscrossing the globe on TBN and Day Star TV...

2 Timothy 2:10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

>>It is interesting that many will not endure, abide, remain, stay in sound doctrine...they won't abide in Jesus Christ, they reject God's True Word, they reject the whole counsel of God's Holy Word and refuse to abide in Jesus Christ -The True Vine, they reject The Holy Spirit – The Spirit of Truth and as such are reserved for the fire since such branches that don't abide in Jesus Christ are thrown into the fire...

2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

>>It is clear the Apostles taught endurance and sufferings for Christ Jesus...

2 Timothy 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

>>God deals with us as Sons and Daughters if we endure His chastening, the tribulation period will certainly be a last chance for all saints to endure hardships and die to the things of this world and be conformed to Christ Likeness – Image of Jesus Christ...must of the Christian church has rejected the chastening of The Lord and therefore are likened to bustards but the persecutions and tribulations coming will give every Christian a chance to endure the chastening of The Lord and die to this world and be conformed to Christ's likeness...and as such God will deal with them as His True Sons and Daughters separated for Him and Holy unto him...

Hebrews 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

>>The Lord is allowing the worldwide hate and ferocious record breaking persecutions to occur to the saints for our own good...that we be separate from idols of the world – Egypt that have taken over the lives of many saints because of false pastors and preachers... The Tribulation will stripe us of every worldliness and take us out of Egypt/Babylon and Egypt/Babylon out of us...as we endure the chastening of The Lord, the Lord will deal with us as His Sons and Daughters even as we separate ourselves for Him...so, why wait until the tribulation begins? Why not start enduring and accepting the chastening of The Lord now?

2 Corinthians 6:16-18
(16) And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
(17) Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
(18 ) And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

>>The Israelites could not endure God's Commands even the Church has done today and they could not stand the presence of God on the Mount of Meeting...they rejected a personal relationship with God and decided to have Moses speak to God on their behalf...they ended up choosing a king over them and rejecting God as their leader, they wanted to be like other nations and this grieved Samuel the Prophet greatly...today many Christians have over them kings who act as intermediaries and have rejected a personal relationship with Jesus Christ...

Hebrews 12:20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:

>>Yes, True Faith has to do a lot with endurance, just like Abraham, Joseph, Noah, Job and all the heroes of faith in Hebrews 11...faith which endures not is not faith...faith spoken about by charlatan preachers on Christian TV is not faith...True Faith endures...

James 5:11 Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.

>>Again our endurance cannot be outside God's Holy Word....we endure by abiding in Jesus Christ...we suffer for Him, not as robbers, thieves etc...

1 Peter 2:19 For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully.

>>True Faith will endure persecutions and testing...this is not the prosperity preaching faith here, this is True Faith in Christ Jesus

1 Peter 1:6-7
(6) Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
(7) That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honor and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

>>Yes, these are the saints that come out of the tribulation, saints that endure sufferings for Jesus Christ and endure by abiding in Jesus Christ and hold His word True...

Revelation 7:13-17
(13) And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
(14) And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
(15) Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
(16) They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
(17) For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

>>The Saints that endured by abiding in Jesus Christ overcame Satan by The Blood of The Lam, The Word of their Testimony – God's Word – Truth, and not loving their lives unto death...enduring to the end...

Revelation 12:11
(11) And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

Brothers and Sisters, Let us Endure to The End...

The Coming days are going to be very evil and persecutions are going to be very heavy and record breaking and we must endure to the end...

We are only pilgrims in this earth and our citizenship is in Heaven where our inheritance is with Jesus Christ...let us ENDURE to The END...Amen

Called to Endure to The End
In Christ Jesus
Kato Mivule
Uganda, Africa

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Oh Grannie Annie!
Kato Mivule is a man after my own heart.
I have many disconjoined thoughts about the way things are and will be. Kato is so much better at putting them together. I have read Kato's articles and am always blessed by the wisdom that God gives him. He had a dream about the Moslems in America that I feel is really right on. I know that Americans will be taught to hate Muslims/Arabs in order for them to take their focus off the most powerful harbingers of evil (CFR, Rckefellers, UN etc.) Just as Hitler used Jew hatred to unite Germany.

Here is Kato's website:
http://www.yesumulungi.com/

Here is Kato's dream:
http://www.repentnow.com/genocide.htm

Thanks Annie for the article.
There are so many "signs and wonder" ministries that are not preparing people for the end times. People spend thousands of dollars to be "equipped" in the supernatural and haven't got a clue what the simple Gospel is about. It is about the joy of sharing in Christ's sufferings and trusting Him to give us strength to endure to the end. Our time here is not even a drop in the bucket compared to an eternity in paradise with the One we love the most.

Blessings

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Thank you Brother. I like his site too. If you wouldn't mind, I feel a burden to post something that I posted on July 10th of this year. It's still busting me up inside - but I'm alright - it's just a very heavy word. I hope no one minds me posting it here.


Brother, I was about to go to sleep last nite and I blasted out of my bed and headed for the computer to look up some verses.

I'm not sure if this is the whole of what we're feeling, but what I got was Matt 13 plus others. Here are the verses.

Mat 13:24 -30 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

And Dan 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

And Rev 22:11, 12 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.


Brother, what I'm seeing in all of these threads on different Forums & Sites and in the Churches is the wheat and the tares. The tares Hate the wheat and watch them with envy and mischief. They despise the offering of Abel and seek to kill their brother like Cain did.

Please see that I don't mean this as any "elitist" type talk ... because as we both have posted ... God takes no pleasure in the fall of anyone and seeks that All would come to Him in truth/love.

Those who do not depend on their 'mentality or intellect' - but with child-like dependence, receive the true fruit or give the sincere/appropriate offering of Rom 12, are being watched and enviously, by those who's own offering of the flesh (intellect) is not acceptable unto the Father - their conscience baring witness to them, that the fruit of the righteous is not from flesh and blood/human intellect.

They are the Un-wise virgins who ask the wise virgins to share their oil. Or as Esau received from Jacob, "just one meal", but not the Blessing he would have, had he gotten his own meals. Getting a 'meal' takes "work" and most do not want that hard way, the narrow way ... the broadway walk of using 'mind' is so much easier and self-glorifying.

Have you had people to come to you and you've felt or had folks saying "I want what you have - share it with me." ? Only to find out they really don't want to pay the cost. Or just the complete opposite ?

It's like they 'know' they are not receiving wisdom from The Father, because they know 'how' they live the rest of their lives outside of fellowship times. Yet they want a share in things as you do or to deride.

Robertson's says of the Greek in Rev 22:11 that ... ""The language is probably ironical, with a reminder of Dan_12:10, in no sense a commendation of their lost estate. Charles rejects this verse as not like John. It is the hopelessness of the final state of the wicked which is here pictured. So as to "Let him be made filthy still" (rupanthe¯to¯ eti). The states of both the evil and the good are now fixed forever. There is no word here about a "second chance" hereafter.""

It's like there comes a point in time in these last days, where those who are wicked are solidified in it and those who are sealed are doubly sealed {in essense - as it says, "IF" it were possible even the Elect would be deceived."} in those days. Do you see what I'm seeing here ? This is scarey.

I wonder if that strick division of the sheep from the goats and tares from wheat and filthy from righteous is cast already ?

Those who walk in dependence on the spirit are like Abel and those who walk after their own minds or ego-appetites are like Cain.

Accusing those who walk in dependence as a child on The Holy Spirit of being "arrogant" ?

They say that tares look like wheat and only the moving of the wind (the Spirit) makes the difference apparent. The wheat sways with the direction of the 'wind' but the tares are rigid and don't.
In the parable, they want to remove these tares, but are told not to. "let them grow together", so that we don't pull up wheat with the tares.

In Churches or on the forums or websites, we can spot tares sometimes, but if we try to pluck them out - some of the wheat will be offended and leave with the tares.

I 'think' we've come to the point that The Elect are shining more because it is getting darker and the tares know that in their personal life, that they are not walking in the fulness of Christ's Spirit nor have the witness in their spirits that they are secure.

If the Elect are sealed - then those who are not, will turn on the Elect and that is what I feel is a major part of the "something horrible" we're all feeling that is here and coming.

Jesus said, they will turn against us to the death of us. That is enough to make our spirits Grieve the loss of people we've known or talked to and the gravity of their damnation. "I never knew you." What a severely grievious thing.
My spirit is grieving and trembling just in typing this. Reverential fear is necessary!

Jesus said, "Few" there be that find it. And that "most" will fall away because of a lack of His Love and Love for Truth.
That's why I post T.A. Sparks, "Truth in the Inward Parts" so often, because even just one small little lie can cause a 'habit' of lying and thus, cause a person to become apostate.

If we're living in the time of the great Apostasy and God is sending "the strong (effectual) delusion, then we are already living in dangerous times in the Church. Yet, we must by commandment love & tolerate the tares & all people until the end.

If we have a deep love for souls ... this is very grievious, to see those who are already fallen away and asking us for more oil to "make it through onto the end".

This whole thing is very grievious and maybe what we felt - is GOD giving them over to believe the lie ....
2Th 2:10 - 12 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a {the} lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

In context of that chapter "the" lie is the verses preceding these, about the anti-Christ. So that means they have an anti-Christ spirit, in that they want to enter in through the broad way or not by the Spirit, but by the flesh. So they will hate those who have Christ truly in and operating through them ... the jealousy of Cain.

The difference between the letter of the law {the legalists or Pharisees} and the spirit of the law. One strives against the other. That's been the same old warfare from the beginning .... God's way or 'our' way.

I fear because the folks that I've invested the most in, are just not seeing this. That they cannot depend on their intellects, but must be led & operating in the Spirit. If I point that out, one too many times, it angers some.

My fear is that we've come to that day when God has pronounced this verse in Rev 22 and 2 Thess. 2 on the people because they have received 'so much' and yet have not laid down their own 'self' to take up His cross and obtain all truth from Him. They prefer to use their own minds and become puffed up and Cast Off.

Do you feel any of this may be the case in our "uneasiness" ? If any of this is true, then we are definitely walking in the midst of much "uneasiness".

If the anti-Christ will soon be revealed - then this is true according to 2 Thess 2:10-12.

Extremely grievious. And our spirits would be picking up on this and will or should be grieving. I 'saw' those who thought they were saved thrown into hell. If that grieves God, than it should grieve us.

To know that people you are talking to are not saved, as you're speaking to them, is way beyond grievious.

We all may need to ask for that second touch as the blind man did, when he only saw men as trees walking.

There is nothing wrong with confidence in one's salvation but yet, there is ample Scripture crying out to be read of our need to make our salvation sure. To humble "ourselves", to "work out with fear & trembling" and "if the Righteous are Scarcely" saved ..... etc. etc. etc..

Praying for discernment for us all. I can see where those who agree are joining into at the least, three different ranks ... both in Churches and the forums, etc.. Basically as has always been the case --- those under the law {by the flesh or legalism} and those who abuse Grace {easy-believism} and the Whole-council-of-God ones.

If we can't or shouldn't pull up/out tares, then we must go on speaking truth to them, yet the 5 wise virgins told the others to go and get their own oil. Finding the balance in HIS Love only. His love can be soft to the touch or chastisement.

Lord help us to stay under His humbling Hand and with much fasting and prayer. These 'are' Perilous times.

Lord 'keep' us.

Joe 2:15 Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly:
Joe 2:16 Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet.
Joe 2:17 Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say, Spare thy people, O LORD, and give not thine heritage to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them: wherefore should they say among the people, Where is their God?


Thank you Brother Baobab! You're a God send right now for busted up gizzards. GOD Bless you and yours.

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This persecution is already underway and the foundations are being laid. But what really floored me is that there are a large number of people out there that actually do have an unreal hatred for God.

The attacks and ridicule of God is well thought out and insidious in nature. A great deal of time has been spent to dissect the scriptures so as to find floors or contradictions that display God as a petty egotistical tyrant. Those that hold to a testimony in Christ as evil butchers.

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Traveler wrote:
"But what really floored me is that there are a large number of people out there that actually do have an unreal hatred for God."

This is true.
Public Schools, the media and entertainment industry fuel this unreal hatred for God. It is planned and implemented by people in high places who are very faithful to satan thinking that somehow they will reign with him/it one day. They are satan's generals and they believe the lies with all their heart. If you get them alone in a corner they will crumble. They are cowards just like their daddy, the father of lies. They operate through fear and intimidation but it is just an illusion. All of satans lies are illusions and he uses people made in God's image to bring substance to the lies. The best defense against lies is to know the truth. The Word is the truth. Jesus is the Word.


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Let's not be so down on the state of things guys. There is GOOD NEWS

but before I start 'preaching to the choir' (btw I won't) and you dismiss, let me surprise you real quick with a verse that is rarely apprehended and revelated:

"Jesus is the desire of the nations"

They just don't know it yet ;)

We owe the world an encounter with God

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Keen wrote:
"Let's not be so down on the state of things guys. There is GOOD NEWS"
and:
"Jesus is the desire of the nations"

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Yes there is Good news.

Haggai 2:7
And I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, saith the Lord of hosts.

This is true, Jesus will be the desire of all nations but first there will be a great shaking and the ant-christ will have his day. These will be times which make strong men faint from fear. These will also be times when the remnant will shine against the backdrop of terrible darkness and there will be many martyrs.

The previous posts were addressing the great shaking that is to come on the entire earth. Jesus addressed this very specifically in Matthew 24. The false prophets are not preparing the Bride for these things. These are not times for the remnant to be afraid. Jesus will give us the strength to endure to the end. We should be aware of these things so we will not be caught off guard. The elijahlist is prostituting the Gospel for profit and all those that are represented there will be liable for leading the sheep astray. They are religious whores. They tell some true things but they are not revealing what the Holy Spirit is saying to the Bride. They give false hope complete with signs and wonders complete with Bible verses taken out of context. They are part of the great delusion and there are many more like them. Their discerment is wholly based on human wisdom. Many started off on the straight and narrow but have been seduced by angels of light. There is nothing in the physical world that can compare to the desire and beauty of lucifer. There is no wisdom in the natural world that can compare with lucifer's wisdom. Those who stray from the narrow path are no match for his deception.
The whole earth will behold the glory of God and I believe it will be through the Bride. But first she must pass through the Holy refining fire. Then Jesus will be the desire of all nations.


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Bless you Brother Tree for not only discerning the times but for preparing the Sheep and not holding back.

Lord Bless you!

Hag 2:7 And I will shake all the nations; and the desire of all nations shall come. And I will fill this house with glory, says Jehovah of Hosts. --- Commentary by JFB - "shake"--not convert; but cause that agitation which is to precede Messiah's coming as the healer of the nations' agitations. The previous shaking shall cause the yearning "desire" for the Prince of peace."
But the others will prepare for war against Him and His Own - that despise His Coming.



Keen, I love your joy and zeal, but we have to temper our beliefs with the whole story - then we'll be more effective for Him and the saving of the flock. HE knows those that are His or will Be coming to Him by the End.

God Bless you too Smiley. Glad you're HERE.

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Amen yoyo. A scripture that directly confirms what you are saying, about persecution during the tribulation...
Daniel 11:34-35 (KJV) Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries. 35And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.

That is what will happen during the GREAT tribulation. No pre-trib rapture is found in the scriptures. In fact, both Yashua and Paul spoke out against pre-trib rapture very emphatically, and called it a "deception" (note: changed from "Great Deception". You can't quote something that is not exact. :) ).

2 Thessalonians 2-4 (KJV) That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand (or could happen at any moment). 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, AND that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Now, Paul is very emphatic here. He’s encouraging us to not be deceived. That day is not going to come, except there come a falling away (apostacy) first, and then the man of sin will be revealed, and then we will get out of here. But, until the anti-Christ is revealed, and he persecutes us, we will not see the second coming. Paul is very specifically saying don’t think that the day of Christ, as in His second coming, will happen until these other things occur, and the time is NOT at hand (or could happen at any moment) until they do.

On more simple to understand terms, especially take note how Paul is very specifically dispelling the pre-trib rapture view.

1. He addresses the people, telling them not to think that day of Christ is at hand, or could happen at any moment.
2. He shows how certain things must come to pass before the day of Christ.

Paul is very SPECIFICALLY referring to Daniel 7:8-10 (anti-christ’s kingdom destroyed by God, and the judgment is set), Daniel 7:25 (anti-Christ speaking out against God), Daniel 11:45-12:3 (destroyed at HIS second coming), and Daniel 8:25 (matched to 2 Thessalonians 2:8, thereby being broken without hand), and Daniel 2:44-45 (destroyed at HIS second coming), and Daniel 7:19-22 (persecution of the saints, and Christ’s second coming).

I think, if you study really carefully, the scriptures I have given, and the connections I have made, and do it PRAYERFULLY, you will see that this idea of pre-trib rapture is totally not even conceivable in the scriptures. Both Yashua and Paul very specifically warned against it as a great deception.

Luke 21:8 (KJV) And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

Some important points He is making here.

1. don’t be deceived by the deception He’s about to tell us about
2. many will come in His name, claiming Yashua is in fact Christ. i.e. they will claim to follow Christ.
3. these people will be saying that the time draweth near, as in He could appear at any moment. The bible teaches clearly that Christ cannot come until certain events occur. He is only coming as a thief in the night to those who do not watch for Him (1 Thessalonians 5:1-5). Watching for Him does not entail looking up to heaven all the time, expecting Him to return at any moment. It entails living a holy life, obeying His commandments, and doing His will, which is the being sober and watchful that 1 Thessalonians 5:1-5 is talking about.

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Amen Bro Trent. You know I'm tracking with ya on all of that. [yeahthat]

Good post and very nicely layed out. Plain and simple - even a yoyo can understand it well. Amen!

I JUST NOW found the time to go check out the Tree's second link above.
I thought I had read all of Kato's stuff from his site over these months, but I sure as life missed that one.

INCREDIBLE.

These guys [the dark ones] don't do anything by chance.

"The Omen" came out on 6/6/06 and they always stick into their movies "truths" for the fun of it. To stick it in the face of those who are in the know and laugh at the ones who don't pick up on their messages in these movies ---- the Scoundrels.

As soon as I saw that movie came out on that date - after reading Brother Kato's dream - I did a search for some stuff that "we know about" - that happened on that date.
I'm far from done checking that date - got lots to look into.

I always do this. First get an Amen in my spirit about a thing - like Kato's dream - MAN - was THAT an AMEN and then I get into investigating a lot.
I've known for years that the tavistok institute controls a lot of what goes into movies - so I figured - I'll post an article on them here for now.
Scoundrels

There's so much about that dream --- I just can't spit it all out just yet --- but I just posted day before yesterday, somewhere else, about this "pitting Christians against muslims" etc. etc. etc..

Kato's talking about Brown Shirts in his dream and I know all too well about Christian Brown Shirts. OY!

Tree and Trent - WOW, how can I say THANKS. Y'all have probably done more for me [my head & heart] than anywhere I've ever been. Considering - I've orbited cyberspace at least 3,559,458,299,333 times --- that's MAJOR for me to be able to say that.


LORD GOD BLESS YOU GUYS AND GALS and Thank you!!!!!!

Edited to add: Baobab - Look what I put in my Signature. :mrgreen: Thank you!

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Hey ~ Bump !

Good Word Kato !!! [tiphat]

and the Olympic cauldron was lit at 8:08 8/8/08

the new age number of "new beginnings" or "completion".

[whistle]

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I have been getting a form of revelation of what is to come after this. That is after what was revealed in the dream that Denis posted.

One of the signs that Jesus spoke of was that there would be disunity in the family so that Fathers would be against Sons and Mothers against Daughters and children against parents etc. They would betray one another even to death.

The Christians will be blamed for this and as the Church has been highjacked as it were there will be foundation to this claim. This will be the time of the opening of the 5th seal. The call will be to wipe Christianity off the face of the earth because it is so evil and everyone who professors a faith in Christ will be getting picked up as they are ratted out even by their own family members.

You get the picture. This bit of revelation has shaken me to the core and I can see the start even in my own family members as my kids are subjeted to the public school system and the news media. It is going to be a time of confusion and betrayal. I see my last stand as a very lonley one.

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